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Helen Bristol 03 April 2004 17:06 No, silly boy, I don't do the lugging. There are porters (or Sherpas as we call them) to do all that kind of thing. Back-wise, I'm back to where I was back this time last year. Vile Jelly 03 April 2004 17:18
So, back to the past (as opposed to back to the future).
Couldn't you apply to our kind, caring and ever vigilant government to get a
replacement endoskeleton from an available donor, such as a now non-viable
minister for immigration. Presumably the reigning monarch will be dispensing
the Maundy money as usual, so just elbow your way to the head of the queue and
put the proposal to Tone. You get a new back, he gets rid of an embarrassing
problem.
PS. I tried working with Sherpas once but I couldn't relax and, like Sir
Edmund, I kept Tenzing up!
Or vice versa if you accept the Sherpas account of the whole thing. Personally
I think the whole thing was a hoax. The picture with H, T and the americans
rehearsing the moon landing are a dead giveaway!
Helen Bristol 03 April 2004 18:27
She'd never do, she lacks backbone. And dissembled to boot!
'Inadvertently mislead the Commons' C'mon, either may she needed to go -
she 'forgot' some vital info that was passes to her, or she told a porky.
No, I think I'll carry on suffering. having bits of the likes of her, I
think my life would become a living nightmare.
PS What at that sub zero temperature. More of a man than I
thought.
Vile Jelly 04 April 2004 08:53
Well, perhaps you could get one of the 'Mr Smiths' from Bucharest to
donate his spine in return for immunity from prostitution (i.e. having to work
in Tony's junta). Still, on the bright side of the whole affair at least Sir
Robert Armstrong can sleep easier knowing he is now only the second
greatest liar in modern British politics. Personally, I tend to take full
advantage of the government's sympathetic understanding of such things and
'inadvertently mislead' the tax office, dole office, etc.
PS. They took me on the expedition precisely because I'm not a man at
all. Jellys are easier to pack and extremely low maintenance. The idea was
that once they got to the top they'd make a rapid descent using me as a space
hopper. Unfortunately, when they got to the top of Everest they were
extremely annoyed to discover that the Sonics (aided by Shaun The Sherpas) had
got there first and opened a double-glazing business. So, I never made the
official photos.
Helen Bristol 04 April 2004 11:49
Ashley, I was referring to H or T. You had not, at that stage in the
conversation, intimated that you were there. Now, sums were never my
strong point ........but, if you were there then, you have
inadvertently mislead the world about being a thirty-something, etc. I'm sure
there is a perfectly plausible explanation.....You will have the full support
of the RT.
Anyway, my back feels a lot (comparatively speaking) better this morning.
Don't know whether it was the massage, the one or two glasses of wine, or the
shock of vibratingly LOUD music at last night's engagement party. The
best thing about LOUD music is that I can't hear my tinnatus.
Vile Jelly 04 April 2004 15:04
Who do you think took the photos of H, T and the astronauts? Now, if you can
fake the photos, faking a burp certificate is no probs. I'm only as old as the
MIB say I am!
Who did you get engaged to?
Helen Bristol 04 April 2004 16:09
MIB ?
Who said anything about me getting engaged?
Vile Jelly 04 April 2004 16:17
Men In Black. Not so much a reference to the moderately amusing/entertaining
films but the original, which was a metaphor for 'the powers that exist but no
one will ever officially admit to'.
Sorry. So, who did BM get engaged to? Or the even the BM-er sprogs? Or was it
a 'I have no idea who they are but it's a good excuse for a party' sort of
party?
Helen Bristol 04 April 2004 16:50
Thanks. These communications can be so educative. So how old was it?
Sorry for what? That I didn't? That once again you'd got it wrong?
BM didn't - at least as far as I am aware. (Don't mention "getting
engaged" to BM - he'd have to go and lie down in a darkened room for at
least a week.) Officially it was BM-er sprog, but I think there were quite a
few don't knows whose party this is but we'll join in anyway. My 2 don't
look like they're ever going to do anything so rash.
Vile Jelly 04 April 2004 17:16
The photo (I assume it is that of which thou refereth) willhavebeen taken two
weeks next Tuesday and then projected via the space/time continuum
manipulating thingy to assume its wrongful place in history.
What do you mean "That once again you'd got it wrong"? Whose side
are you on. Here I am getting my whatsits shot off by e-mail snipers and just
when it comes to 'rally round the flag' time you decide you've just got to pop
out for a flag-break!
Ever considered a compromise? How about you mention the E word to BM and
suggest that if he needs to go and lie in a darkened room for a week to think
about it ..... well, the cellar is stocked with Mr. Chimbley's finest and you
just happen to have put a mattress, duvet and freshly plumped pillows down
there.
See? Just because I'm massively unpopular doesn't mean that I don't have the
occasional flash of expiration!
Helen Bristol 04 April 2004 18:42
No,Mathter, that wath not what I wath referring to. I meant how old do the BIM
say you are? 'though your explanation was infinitely more interesting.
Just that on very, very rare occaisions you misread the Runes. See,
you're doing it again. I'm behind you all the way - just can't keep up
what with my knackered back.
Why would I want to even whisper the E word? ' though I can see that you're
plan has its merits.
I thought that getting a degree thingy meant that you have mastered the
skill/craft of logical thinking. Where is the correlation between
massive unpopularity and expirational flashes. GW & T B-B are all
the time, the former, but sadly haven't the decency to do the latter.
PS Shock Horror in T'Observer today. The Duc of Cornshire is planning another
carbuncle near Nukie. The article was all about the eyesore at Poundbury,
just outside Dorchester ( not far enough outside some would say) and how HMPC
is going to build another near you. As one disgruntled local said 'what
the royals want the royals get' What will West Penwith (for it is
they is it not) make of this one? 'Yes your Majesty, No Your majesty, Anything
you say Sir' All thinking of possible gongs. The 'affordable'
housing in Poundbury starts at a mere snip at £215,000. I'll take 2 and
rent them out......oh, no I can't do that cos you'll lay into me (!) like you
do to Windiwoo
Vile Jelly 05 April 2004 11:21
What MIB? I assure you that there is no such organisation!
Well, the degree thingy did teach the merits of logical thinking and rational
argufying but I have since discovered (especially recently in the SSI e-mus)
that such deeds have no practical relevance in today's way of things. So from
now on I am going to SHOUT VERY LOUDLY,
IGNORE THE CRITICS OTHER THAN GIVE THEM AN OCCASIONAL CONDESCENDING
"THAT'S BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND" AND ONLY CHERRY PICK THE
THINGS THAT MAKE ME LOOK GOOD ..... just like everyone else.
PS. Haven't seen owt about Mr. Bowles and his plans for another (airfix) model
village down here. To be honest, I didn't think he knew where Cornwall was,
let alone West Penwith.
PPS. Nukie (if that's the locale in question) is in Europe and nothing to do
with West Penwith whose frontiers end east of Cardboard Bay.
Helen Bristol 05 April 2004 15:57
Never was much good at constituency boundaries, they're all manipulated
anyway.
You're game plan sounds eminently sensible - are you sure you're feeling OK?
Vile Jelly 05 April 2004 16:52
There's nowt wrong with gerrymandering. Some of our longest and bitterest
conflicts have been caused by it! In fairness, though, I suppose it must be
galling for you to see the government spending all those resources
manipulating boundaries when it's really the nation's backbones that need
manipulating.
No. I find myself in the invidious position of seeming either to have to
abandon my principles or fight back and cause collateral damage. Even poor old
Winwaloe has now been vituperatively assailed by the forces of abuse. What
does one do under such circumstances?
Helen Bristol 05 April 2004 17:20
Its got nothing to do with mis-spending finances, but all to do with
transparency and integrity, not popular concepts in this day and age.
Why can't you adhere to your principles and fight back?
Vile Jelly 05 April 2004 17:44
I blame the government ..... and society ..... and, bugger me, I'm right!
Because to fight back involves getting down and dirty no matter what the
'theory' is. In the battle for truth and freedom how can you wrest either from
your opponent if they don't play fair? If they do play fair the battle
wouldn't, ipso facto, being taken place. And if they don't play fair how far
will disapproving finger-wagging get you?
At the end of the day, violence is the only viable alternative to submission
as the WW2 graveyards littered all over the world testify. Thus, it simply
becomes a question of How Much will it take to provoke you to violence, How
Far are you prepared to go to win and Why can't humans be more like the
Reporting Team!
Helen Bristol 06 April 2004 18:40
Like it or not you're part of society. We all are. Only way you
wouldn't be is to live in total isolation on some god-forsaken island.
The WW2 graveyards and those from previous conflicts only testify to the
stupidity, avarice and aggressiveness of the Leaders. The poor sods who
got killed hade little option. I'm not prepared to argue this one 'cos I
know I can't win! I have no solution - I just know that it is
"wrong" (can't think of another word) to take another person's life,
though I'm sure if I went down the man-as-an-animal route there would be many
examples of a member of one specie taking the life of another of the same.
This is getting a bit heavy for a Tuesday evening. Think I'll go and
cook another curry to take my mind off life, the world and everything.
Vile Jelly 07 April 2004 08:17
But there is no such thing as 'society' any more. Now, we are just a random
collection of (self)interest groups determined to observe our 'rights' to the
detriment of others. When was the last time you saw a
social/political/economic group put their hands up and say 'OK we lose out on
this one but we're prepared to bite the bullet for the greater good of all?'.
Ruthless self-interest is the modus vivendi and there is nowt more efficacious
than violence when it comes to ensuring that your own self-interest is imposed
for the good of all. After all, I'm only following the fine (and profitable)
examples set me by the likes of 'Saint' Margaret Thatcher and 'Pope' Tony
Blah!
Personally, I don't subscribe to the 'man as animal' theory. Rather to the
'man as malignant disease' theory. I'm just hoping that when the humans are
finally eradicated that the RT will put in a good word me with the Supreme
Beings (who, they assure me, are a red, velvet humpty and a green, velvet
rabbit). The afterlife couldn't really be heaven if it had humans in it, could
it?
PS. How was the curry? Do you prefer the instantaneous 'hit by CS gas' type or
the delayed-action 'wake up to find the duvet stuck to the ceiling' type?
Helen Bristol 07 April 2004 17:57
What after-life? As far as I'm concerned this is all there is. The
thought of some sort of "eternity" is appalling. Going on and on
without any end in sight.
It may be the way things seem to be done but that don't make it right or,
indeed, acceptable.
PS Well, to be perfectly honest, not as good as the last one. The hit
was in dry roasting freshly ground cumin seeds with ground corriander and
coconut. Then there is the wow when you get a mouthful of chilli,
followed by a satisfied mmmm. I think my problem last night was trying
to curtail the cooking time. With the lamb korma it was OK but beef a)
doesn't do a good korma & b) needed longer cooking time. Still we all
learn from our mistakes - sometimes.
Vile Jelly 08 April 2004 08:48
Ah, but then, if there is no afterlife, where is the incentive to behave? If
it wasn't for the hope of eternity with the RT and their friends and never
more to see another human bean I'd just go out and start potting everyone on
my 'marked for death' list. Preferably in the most humourously excruciating
manner possible. A short life and a merry one, as one highwayman announced
from the gallows.
Anyway, I don't think it is fair that you should try and impose your own
warped morals and values on the rest of the world! Just about everyone on the
planet is happily violent (and violently happy), so don't knock it. As an
instrument of change it's very successful. Just ask the new Spanish
government, "Fed up with the occupation" of Baghdad, "Fed up
with a dictatorship" of Haiti. God, all this violence might even stir
into action "Fed up with a having f***wit in charge" of
Everywhereville, USA!
PS. So, back to the Homepride Sauces, then? Don't mind curries at all but, for
some reason, never been particularly fussed about cooking them myself. I think
my spicy glands prefer chilli-based hotness so I tend to do Tex-Mex or Spicy
Chinese when the craving for a tongue-traumatiser seizes me.
Helen Bristol 08 April 2004 18:00
define "behave". I don't see the threat of eternity being a
reason for behaving in a particular way.
My morals/values aren't warped, at least not to me. But it is patently
obvious that there is absolutely no point in even trying to argue my point of
view with someone who is so blinkered and set in his ways.
PS Italian tonight. BM had to go to Ipswich yesterday and somehow his Italian
car always finds itself outside the Italian deli.
PPs hurrah 4 days off.
Vile Jelly 09 April 2004 10:29
"Behave" - To do what you're told and not what you want to do. It's
not the threat of eternity per se, it's the threat of an eternity of
unpleasantness. Ideally, what you want is a deal like the crusaders got where
you could do very naughty things and still go to heaven.
You see, there you go again. Trying to express your rights as an individual
which are clearly contrary to the views of State and Society in the 21st
century! Here are poor old George and Tony trying to run Iraq for your benefit
and all you can do is complain about a few million people, who don't even live
round here, getting minorly inconvenienced in the process. Good grief, next
you'll be whingeing that a less than 100% perfect upbringing doesn't
justify robbing and murdering people! Stop getting in touch with your inner
self and try to blend into normal society (before you get carted away by the
thought police). That many Sun readers can't be wrong!
Anyway, how can you accuse me of being blinkered and set in my ways? Logically
this can never be practically disproved as the accusation infers that one is
incapable of changing one's mind/view/opinion. Since, ipso facto, the only way
to disprove that theory would be to constantly change your mind about
everything you would never be able to hold an opinion long enough to establish
that said opinion had been changed as a result of a conscious
rational process!
Plus, of course, you'll now have to change your opinion that I am blinkered
and set in my ways in order to show that you are not!
Ah, the joys of logic, eh? No wonder Mr. Spock was always looking stressed!
PS. Not spaghetti, I hope. Or if its is, I hope you didn't last week's e-mails
with Gill.
PPS. But you're on holiday, aren't you? Anyway, who's going to run the NHS if
you're off. I mean what might happen if someone got injured in a crucifixion
accident today. It could be three days before he got any medical attention!
Helen Bristol 09 April 2004 11:48
But what if there's no one there to tell me what to do? Do I just dither
about doing nothing? Oh, please tell me, I can't make up my own mind!
Well, its life, Jim, but not as I know it.
Don't do spag very often. No, this was chicken with proscutto a, basil
and fontina cooked in white wine. I'd've sent you some by the steam
packet from Great Yarmouth but its all gone.
Where have you got this idea that I am personally responsible for the state of
the NHS? Not me, guv. I'm just a very lowly minnion, honest.
Anyway, I don't do emergencies. I'd have to make a decision, rather than
being told what to do.
PS Time to start practising for the Drink-Cornwall-Dry expedition!
Vile Jelly 09 April 2004 15:02
That's why Tony Blah invented god, so that you'd have someone to tell you what
to do when he's not available.
Make it so.
What the Steam Packet or the fud?
Yes, but you're a minion with an opinion. Just like the 'no taxation without
representation' principle, you can't have opinions without making decisions.
The existence of the former proves the exercise of the latter. Besides, you're
no less qualified to run the NHS than the current (and former) incumbents.
What have you and we got to lose?
PS. You'd better time your attempt on the north face of the Cornish Beer
Industry just right. At present the place is full of lager-swilling, footie-shirt-wearing
oafs.
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